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[ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I wouldn't call a man who has tirelessly tried to help the Iraqi people by bringing up genocidal Sanctions by the US/UK team-up an 'idiot'. With all of the dodgy business that has been going on recently-bugging security council members and pilfering student papers and presenting them as 'evidence' (Colin Powell), etc.-I would say the odds are extremely high that they would want to frame Galloway. There is no question that he must bring this paper to court. Daniel. >From: Daniel O'Huiginn >To: casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk >Subject: Re: [casi] inconsistencies in the Galloway case? >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:22:38 +0100 (BST) > > >According to the original telegraph articles >[www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/22/ngall122.xml] he >went through piles of documents with a translator in situ, which seems >like the obvious way to go about it. >There may be different accounts in other media - I'd put this down to >journalistic incompetence; there are plenty of journalist who can't copy a >story without introducing mistakes > >I don't find it too likely that the documents were planted - I'm sure if >US generals wanted to discredit Galloway they could just announce >'intelligence information' and 90% of the USA would believe them. So why >go to the trouble of forging documents, planting them, and hoping they >will be found? I've become far more willing to believe conspiracy theories >over the past few months, but I've not yet seen any convincing evidence >that this is one of them. It seems far more likely that Galloway, or >somebody acting on his behalf, was being an idiot. > > >Dan > >On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, pjw8 wrote: > > > Friends, this is getting weirder and weirder. Thanks for > > the sleuthing, Cathy A. I heard on NPR Radio in the States > > that the 2 boxes that the Daily Telegraph reporter found, were marked > > BRITAIN or some such title that was recognizable to him, > > (he says he doesn't speak Arabic) . Why would the boxes among > > many stand out to this reporter, given he doesn't speak > > Arabic? Did he go into the Ministry with an Arabic > > speaking person, if he was looking for documentary evidence > > that would be in Arabic? He says he picked up the > > boxes and took them to an interpreter elsewhere. > > Here's a scenario to work off: the memo re: oil and the Mariam > > Appeal was written as part of a deal with one of the generals > > that was made with the US via cell phone just before the invasion, > > Philippa Winkler > > > > > > > > >===== Original Message From Cathy Aitchison ===== > > >Dear Jonathan > > >Sorry, I can't contribute information about Mariam herself. > > > > > >However, regarding the loss of the domain name marianappeal.com for the > > >Mariam Appeal: according to OnlineNIC's WHOIS database, the > > >mariamappeal.com name was registered on 20 Sept 2002 to Wang Chuan > > >Sheng, at an address in Taipei, Taiwan > > > > > >This is possibly an alias for Li Yen Chun, who lost against Fortum > > >Corporation in June 2002 (he registered fortum.net and set up a portal > > >site on it). Quote from the WIPO administrative panel decision: > > >"(c) The Respondent has registered at least 345 different domain names, > > >some of which are in the name of different registrants, such as Domain > > >Seller, Domain Reseller, IA Consulting, Inc and Wang Chuan Sheng;" > > >see: > > >http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0324.html > > > > > >As I'm sure you know, the mariamappeal.com website is listed widely in > > >directories (including CASI) and linked from articles in online > > >magazines. > > >eg.: http://www.orientmagazine.com/mariamappeal/news_13.htm > > > > > >The change of registrant means that any emails addressed directly to the > > >Mariam Appeal (eg. info@mariamappeal.com, as quoted in the Orient > > >Magazine news item) now go to/via 'Wang Chuan Sheng' in Taiwan. > > > > > >How did 'our man in Taiwan' spot this opportunity, among the thousands > > >of domain names which must lapse all the time - did he perhaps have a > > >list of names to watch out for? > > > > > >Cathy > > > > > >In message > > >>, Jonathan Stevenson writes > > >> > > >>Hello all, > > >> > > >>I've been contacted by a journalist covering the Ali Ismaael Abbas story > > >>who is looking for information on what happened to Mariam, on whose behalf > > >>the Mariam Appeal was launched. Does anyone have any information on this? > > >>The webite now appears to be advertising for a casino. > > >> > > >>Thanks, > > >>Jonathan > > >> > > >>------- > > >> > > >>Jonathan Stevenson > > >>Gonville and Caius College | Cambridge | CB2 1TA > > >>tel 01223 521914 | mob 07818 651124 > > >> > > >>"Miss Carridge's method of entering a private apartment was to knock > > >>timidly on the door on the outside some time after she had closed it > > >>behind her on the inside. Not even a nice hot cup of tea in her hand > > >>could make her subject to the usual conditions of time and space in > > >>this matter." > > >>- Murphy > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > > >>To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > > >>To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > > >>All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > >-- > > >Cathy Aitchison > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > > >To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > > >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > > >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. > > To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss > > To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk > > All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk > > > >------------ >Daniel O'Huiginn >do227@cam.ac.uk >07789 260207 01223 564613 >O9, Queens College >------------ > >"While it's still early, Iraqi revolution seems to have succeeded. It is >almost certainly a net gain for our side" > White House memo, 8th February 1963 > > "We cannot base our military strategy on the basis that Saddam is weak > and at the same time justify pre-emptive action on the claim that he is > a serious threat" > Robin Cook > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. >To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss >To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk >All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8[1] and get 2 months FREE* ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMJENUS/2728 _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. 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