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I, too, am sick of the insensitivity of the unholy alliance between Saddam's apologists and the loony ultra leftists, who add insult to injury. The former have lost their idol and the latter have just woken up belatedly to join the bandwagon of anti-Americanism. Why did not they do so when America, all capitalist and almost all other governments were hand in glove with Saddam, even when he invaded Iran, using chemical weapons against them and Iraqi Kurds ? Where were they when Saddam invaded Kuwait? Where have they been all my life ? It is for the Iraqi people to judge Saddam's rule, the last war and the Iraqi Governing Council. Non-Iraqis are politely reminded to limit their remit to the implications of the Iraqi issue on their respective internal politics. At least they are familiar with their own language, culture and way of life. Which is more than can be said of their familiarity with the language, culture and way of life of Iraq, let alone its political complexities. As Iraqis, we do not expect them to have that familiarity, but they should have the common courtesy to ask us if they want to be helpful internationalists. They should refrain from issuing political Fatwas(edicts) on Iraq from the comfort of their ivory towers supplied by courtesy of their capitalist states. How could those who were neither born in Iraq, nor lived there, nor even followed the tragic situation in Iraq in the pre-Gulf war past, be more Iraqi than Iraqis themselves ? I, by virtue of having been born and bred in Iraqi Kurdistan, where I finished my schooling and came to the U.K. for studying 45 years ago, am more qualified and entitled to speak on Iraq than the entire loony leftists of this wide world. Some of them have the audacity to preach to us about our own Iraqi issue. This latest accusation qualifies as a tasteless sick joke, which should be confined to the family albums of such apologists and loony left. The markers of Saddam's apologists and the loony ultra leftists are: 1. Lack of any positive idea, let alone action, to improve the life of the Iraqi people. 2. They manipulate the plight of the Iraqi people as pawns in their ideological opposition to capitalist states. 3. Their reporting and comments on post-Saddam Iraq is conspicuous by the absence of anything positive in the current situation, it is all doom and gloom. 4. Their slogans on sanctions, pre-war and post-war are exactly those of Saddam, such as their latest march in London on 27th September 2003. Regards, Muhamad -----Original Message----- From: Yasser Alaskary [mailto:ya1980@hotmail.com] Sent: 29 September 2003 16:57 To: tombo_combo@lycos.com; casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk Subject: Re: [casi] Media and press agencies cooperating in faking mass grave sites? you make me sick. we've been to the first site looking for the body my aunt. they are real. i can't believe how insensitive and pathetic some people can be. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Young" <tombo_combo@lycos.com> To: <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: [casi] Media and press agencies cooperating in faking mass grave sites? In a list that relies heavily on cut and pastes from major news organisations (including the Washington Post and even, God help us, the Washington Times - outlets although interesting are not well known for independence from the US policy line) its worth examining just how reliable and unbiased as sources these organisations may be. In light of the revelations in the Bulletin magazine of Australia, that an ABC photojournalist killed in Northern Iraq had also been free-lancing for Rendon Group - an important CIA subcontractor - its worth remembering just how powerful images can be in shaping the publicīs view of the morality of their governmentīs actions. The following 2 photos, sourced from the US state department website, but credited to Associated Press, emphasize these concerns. Interested in comment. Particularly as to the involvement of senior British "humanitarian" politicians in what appears to be a faked mass grave site. Link 1 http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/gallery/iraq-2003/0602mon1.htm An AP photo of British politician and human rights envoy. The viewer is invited to see these white bags as representing human corpses. In my view these are far more likely to represent bags of earth. Firstly because the well-rounded and filled out nature of the bags. Secondly, the fact they are scattered in great disorder. Thirdly, they are sitting on the surface with no indication of a hole or excavation in the ground from which remains have been removed. Link 2 http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/security/gallery/0516skull.htm This one is little better. While a man is running around carrying what looks like a human skull, the pit that is in the centre of the photo looks like just that, a pit. It appears to be dug at random and is now quite deep without showing any human remains. If any had been present they would have been disintegrated by the the very clumsy method of excavation. In any case by looking at the profile of the soil revealed on the side it appears the site has been previously undisturbed for many decades. Regards Tom ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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