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>They were prepared to >let the Americans kill thousands of Iraqis to achieve >that objective.. >The fact that the man listens to his crowd >means he is not a dictator; more reason to respect >him.. If you go to Iraq and ask the people there whether they wanted a war to remove saddam or not, the bast majority say yes, despite the hardships of the war and the current situation - so as you say isn't it good that they listen to their crowds! unlike some iraqis. Iraqi political parties do not talk about the shias in saudi arabia, period. they don't do a nasrallah and talk about the country and its people without refering to the brutality and opppression they live under, and they certainly don't do something as insensitive as call for them to 'put their differences to one side' and defend the dictator who has been slaughtering them. As for leaving his place, Iraq was much much more dangerous for political leaders than lebanon ever was. look at the martyrs sayyid muhammed baqir al-sadr and sayyid muhammed sadiq al-sadr. the fact that there is not apparent leader for iraq is testimony to that and saddam's ruthlessness. anyway, what is important now is to work to help iraq achieve geniune democracy. that can only be done if stability is achieved - which in turn can only begin to be achieved if the all the former security apparatus (the mukhabarat, the amin, etc) and loyalists (e.g. fedayeen) are arrested and taken off the streets - these people all need to be put on trial for their involvement in the former regime. best wishes yasser IPO - London ----Original Message Follows---- From: Hassan Zeini <hasseini@yahoo.com> To: CASI <casi-discuss@lists.casi.org.uk> Subject: Re: [casi] Bomb in Najaf has kills 82, including leading Shia - FT Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 07:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Whenever anyone starts his sentence by “with all due respect”, it indicates he has no respect, and the rest is evident. What Sayyid Nasrallah is accused of also applies to all other Shi’a leaders, especially the Iraqi ones. SCIRI or the Da’wa Party have had only one article on their agenda: overthrowing the regime of Saddam and establishing an Islamic State.. They were prepared to let the Americans kill thousands of Iraqis to achieve that objective.. The late Sayyid Baqir Al-Hakim “never mentioned the suffering” of Shi’a under Al-Saud rule, or the oppression of Shi’a in Bahrain or in Turkey. He too did not want to infuriate his “Bedouin” and American supporters since this would damage his agenda... I don’t remember any condemnation of the murder of over 1.5 million Iraqis through sanctions.. It suited the agenda of SCIRI to cooperate with the US (for the past 12 years as Abdul-Aziz Al-Hakim admitted), and that seems to be accepted. It is accepted to cooperate with the occupier, simply because SCIRI wants so. The late Sayyid Baqir Al-Hakim was quoted as saying “I know that God had forbidden cooperating with the occupier, but I will allow that”.. But it is not accepted to condemn the occupation and call for resistance... I have the greatest admiration and respect for Sayyid Nasrallah, because the man never left his place and ran away, and because he led a party that fought an occupation and forced it into a shameful withdrawal..He is an exemplary leader.. Whoever criticizes Sayyid Nasrallah should have acted better... >He's saying what his crowd wants to hear< It is quite understandable, and it reflects democratic thought. It means that Hizbollah opposes the US/UK occupation, and Sayyid Nasrallah is reflecting their views. The fact that the man listens to his crowd means he is not a dictator; more reason to respect him.. Or should we have a leader who tells us what to do?? Another Saddam, for example?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ Sent via the discussion list of the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq. To unsubscribe, visit http://lists.casi.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/casi-discuss To contact the list manager, email casi-discuss-admin@lists.casi.org.uk All postings are archived on CASI's website: http://www.casi.org.uk